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"Tanakh" should be clarified

In the Religions section, the Islam subsection discusses religious texts, including the article's first instance of "Tanakh". This means the Hebrew Bible, but it's not clear that they mean the same thing to an uneducated reader.

- Make it clear that "Tanakh" is the same as "Hebrew Bible" somewhere in the article

Sorry if I'm wrong or missed something important... I really don't know how to edit articles and doubt an anon like me can edit this one, but this was confusing as a reader! 66.227.176.131 (talk) 03:15, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wording

The "respectively" in the first sentence seems pointless. 2601:647:CE80:500:7C54:5A6A:F41C:1567 (talk) 18:10, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

other/older Eastern religions including some Gnosticism/Manichaeism

Some Gnosticism (there were 100+ historical denominations, and are modern ones), earlier Manichaeism were described and in 'category:Abrahamic religions' but removed because of disagreements (such as also saying Biblical God is Gnostic demiurge, that is, Devil) yet currently says Mani's predecessors include Abraham & successors, but that followers misinterpreted; should it be re-added to category & main article, or is Manichaeism article still being worked on finding citations one way or another, or it's 50% Abrahamic, 50% antiabrahamic like among various ancient Gnosticism?

There are dozens other Eastern mixed Abrahamic/pre-Abrahamic religions such as Alevism, Shabakism (maybe tens nearby on Wikipedia), various ecumenical/syncretic Hindu-Christian (fair number of (Yoga) Masters such as Ching Hai, Gurumayi, Paramhamsa Yogananda, Swami Sivananda, and New Age & Theosophy mix Hinduism with Kabbalah, Christianity, Sufism, etc.). These denominations & (named) Masters' organizations all have many more followers than some minor Abrahamic religions, so aren't some or similar relevant to add? There were several Chinese Abrahamic/pre-Abrahamic religions (still on Wikipedia) but may have died out... I read Chinese Bibles translates 'God' 'Dao'/'Tao', so may retain significant Taoist influence--dchmelik☀️🦉🐝🐍(talk|contrib) 12:38, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The article is not about all religions feating the figure Abraham, but the concept of Abrahamic Religion in inter-religious discourse. Since it is a post-modern phenomena, Manichaeism do not participate in these discussions. VenusFeuerFalle (talk) 16:32, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

'Phenomena' is plural; 'phenomenon' is singular. I don't know what you mean by 'feating' but the article is meant to mention/list all Abrahamic religions, and doesn't mention 'inter-religious' (except 'see also" interfaith', not a main topic). Manichaeism is ancient/Classical, and some Abrahamic denominations are postmodern--dchmelik☀️🦉🐝🐍(talk|contrib) 08:55, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mormonism?

Can Mormonism be categorized as both denomination and religion, like Bahai, Rastafarianism (categorized as new religions) are from new Christian prophets/'Christs', but some Bahai are more Christianity-focused (some focused on other religions), and some Rastafari are Christian (others criticize mainstream Christianity)? To me it sounds similar to how Ayyavazhi is both a Hindu sect and new religion (and a Sikh told me Sikhism initially started as such and she considers it a Hindu sect... others may not). I'm no Mormonism expert, but apparently Joseph Smith, maybe in The Book of Mormon says Mormons (in Heaven?) can become deities/divinities (god(desses)), which diverges from all but heterodox/heretical Christianity such as Gnosticism (ancient religious movement of 100+ Judeo-Christian, pagan/Greco-Roman-Egyptian-Mediterranean, Christo-pagan religions). 'Christianity is an Abrahamic monotheistic religion'--'Wikipedia:Christianity', but people becoming gods isn't: it's apotheosis/autotheism/suitheism & polytheism in this case also with (kat)henotheism similar to Hinduism worshipping creator God(dess) in pantheon of divinities, and some saying Hindus can become gods. This isn't a criticism of Mormonism (which has some most well-maintained Wikipedia portals) but there's major contradiction between articles such as this, Mormonism, Christianity--dchmelik☀️🦉🐝🐍(talk|contrib) 10:38, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Polytheism is a term to denote alleged pre-Christian worship of several theos and monotheism one theos, with the hidden assumption that a worldview including such theos entails worship of them. A theos is supernatural being interferring directly with the world, in contrast to a deus (not interferring directly). As such, Mormonism is understood as a monotheistic religion, as they pose their "deity to be one who is interfering with the world". The amount of supernatural beings does not matter in the classification. Likewise, it does not matter, if these beings are perceived as "gods" within the mythologigy or hagiography of said religion. VenusFeuerFalle (talk) 16:53, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

'Poly-theism' is 'many-gods', not 'alleged' (still-existent in many parts of world), regardless of time period/era/age, and not defined in relation to Christianity or any other religion, except describes Mormonism's case, in this case mixing ideas from polytheism & monotheism, which is (kat)henotheism (still polytheist, but focusing on one God)... number of gods absolutely matters (as only criterion except for subtypes) for which definition fits. Words don't imply 'hidden assumptions': in henotheism including monolatrism, some worship only one god but don't reject existence of others, and in modern monotheism derivatives such as deism, people may not worship either--dchmelik☀️🦉🐝🐍(talk|contrib) 07:16, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]